Submit Amendments to the Manifesto HERE

[Lüc]

Just post them underneath. For reference, the current Manifesto (for the 50th Cosa):

On micronations:

• No diplomatic relations with "bug-micronations". The government should not abuse its diplomatic powers.
• The Foreign Ministry should try to investigate what serious, "like minded" "micronations" are currently active and the potential risks and benefits associated with various forms of diplomatic contacts with such nations, within the limits of the Afaes Utphätseschti Act.

On the Senate:

• Party endorsement should not count in any way for Senatorial elections.
• Provinces should be in charge of electing Senators.
• Use of a preferential voting method for senatorial elections conducted by the Chancery.
• 
  Introduce a small fee for accepting seats in the Senate.
  

On the Cosa:

• Introducing mandatory and binding candidate lists for the Cosâ.
  
• On the long term Talossa needs a Real Cosâ, which will be achieved by a combination of population growth and a decrease in the size of the Cosâ to sixty seats.
• The Seneschal should be elected by the Cosa rather than be appointed by the King. On the long term, the MRPT will consider the possibility of a PM directly elected by the voters.

On the secret ballot:

The MRPT is happy with the current amendment to introduce a semi-secret ballot, but would like to go one step further and introduce a full automated secret ballot for Cosâ and Senatorial elections, under the condition that a diverse independent committee has access to the admin account to monitor the elections.

On separation of power:

• The MRPT believes that on the long term further separation of power is needed.
• Too many offices should not be held by too few people. This can however only be achieved alongside a growth of the population.
• When Talossa has more than 1000 citizens full separation of power between the judiciary, excecutive and legislative should, at least on a national level, be realistic.

On citizenship and privacy:

• The MRPT does not support plans to make immigration laws stricter in the sense that more activity or knowledge from the prospective citizen is required than under the current rules.
• Any contact information received from the prospective by the Immigration Ministry or the Chancery is strictly private and may not be shared with third parties outside the Ministry of Immigration or the Chancery, with the exception of email addresses, which may be shared with the committee to monitor secret ballot elections, and provincial institutions that have tasks similar to that of the Chancery. The list of email addresses should be regularly updated by the chancery.
• The MRPT believes that Talossan citizenship should not prevent Talossans from pursuing their own interests outside Talossa and will protect the right of Talossans to do so. This includes joining micronations.

On culture and enterprise:

• Promoting and protecting Talossan culture, language and traditions.
• The government should not try to do what Talossans can do themselves, but instead stimulate private initiative.
• In most cases, the Government should facilitate and support cultural projects, rather than lead or own them.
• When a project can be completed without any new legislation, it should generally be completed without any new legislation.
• The Ziu should in most cases refrain from endorsing cultural practices as being "Talossan" when there is no evidence the practice is in fact strongly related to Talossan culture.

On judicial reform:
The MRPT is committed to reforming the Royal Talossan Bar, in a way that allows competent and dedicated prospective barristers to be admitted to the Bar through a period of apprenticeship and an automated law exam. Unless the Royal Society can guarantee regular, scheduled law courses, attendance and graduation should not be compulsory to seek admission to the Bar. Measures will be sought to ensure that such a reform is reached with broad, nonpartisan consensus.

On the Monarchy:

• The MRPT is fundamentally monarchist, and supports the hereditary Monarchy. However, we are also committed to taking measures to make the Monarchy more acceptable to the Republican segment of the population and make the Monarchy more accountable to all the people. These measures should include the introduction of a democratic option to remove a Monarch when there is a large public and parliamentary support for such a step.
• 
  The veto power of the King over statutes should be converted to a suspensive veto which can be overridden by a supermajority of the Ziu during the same session as the veto was issued, or by a simple majority of the Ziu during the session following the veto subject to a vote of the people in a referendum.

On the provinces:

• Provincial assignment should remain based on actual geographical location.
  
• Moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should result in a change of province.
• Increasing provincial activity.
  

On other issues:

• Many provisions of the Organic Law would be better suited as part of Statutory Law.
• Promote the development and expansion of a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation.
  
• The Talossan government should start paying for its own web presence.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Here are the 37 amendments that Glüc wanted someone to propose for him.  I am going to wait to propose my own amendments (if I have any) until after I see how the manifesto gets changed by these amendments, since there are so many of the them.


1. From the section "On Micronations" remove the sentence "The government should not abuse its diplomatic powers."



2. To the section "On Micronations" add the sentence: "The government should try to increase its visibility in the micronational world."



3. From the section "On the Senate" remove the sentence "Party endorsement should not count in any way for Senatorial elections."



4. In the section "On the Senate" amend the sentence "Provinces should be in charge of electing Senators" to read "Provinces should be in charge of election Senators, whenever possible."



5. From the section "On the Senate" remove the sentence "Use of a preferential voting method for senatorial elections conducted by the Chancery."



6. In the section "On the Senate amend the sentence "Introduce a small fee for accepting seats in the Senate." to read: ". A small fee for accepting seats in the Senate might be introduced in the future, but only if neccesary because webhosting consistently costs more than revenue generated by donations and stamp/coin/talossaware sales. "



7. To the section "On the Senate" add the sentence "Votes in the Senate should be degressively proportional to the number of citizens of the province a senator represents."



8. From the section "On the Cosa" remove the sentence "Introducing mandatory and binding candidate lists for the Cosâ."



9. In the section "On the Cosa" add between the words "Cosa" (4th appearance) and "rather" the clause "using a preferential ballot".



10. To the section "On the Cosa" add the sentence "The fee for participating in Cosa elections may only be raised if absolutely neccesary for the purpose of webhosting and not before a fee for accepting seats in the Senate has been introduced."



11. In the section "On citizenship and privacy" amend both "Immigration Ministry" and "Ministry of Immigration" to read "Interior Ministry"



12. In the section "On citizenship and privacy" amend "the committee to monitor secret ballot elections," to read "the Electoral Commission"



13. To the section "On citizenship and privacy" add between "... that of the chancery" and "The list of email..." the sentence "Provinces may use the chancery database to maintain their own email database for the purpose of holding elections. "



14. Create a new section entitled "On Laws of the Kingdom"

Move the sentence "When a project can be completed without any new legislation, it should generally be completed without any new legislation." from the section "On Culture and

Enterprise" to the new section "On Laws of the Kingdom"

Move the sentence "Many provisions of the Organic Law would be better suited as part of Statutory Law." from the section "On other issues" to the new section "On Laws of the Kingdom"



15. Rename the section "On culture and enterprise" to "On culture"



16. To the section "On culture" or "On culture and enterprise" after "...language and traditions" add the sentence "The CUG remains the institution responsible for protecting the Talossan language."



17. Rename the section "On the Monarchy" to "On the Monarchy and the Royal Household" Additionally, add at the end of the section "On the Monarchy and the Royal Household" the sentence "Officers currently part of the royal household should remain within the royal household."



18. In the section "On the Monarchy" or "On the Monarchy and the Royal Household" amend everything from "However..." to "...referendum" to read "However, we also believe in democratic values, which means the Kings political power should be limited. Additionally, there should be democratic way to remove the monarch if there is large public and parliamentary support for such a step."



19. Rename the section "On the provinces" to read "On provincial assignment". Additionally, move the section "On provincial assignment" to directly follow "On Citizenship and Privacy".



20. From the section "On the provinces" or "On provincial assignment" remove the sentence "Increasing provincial activity".



21. In the section "On the provinces or "On provincial assignment" amend the sentence "Moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should result in a change of province." to read "The default option for moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should be a change of province. "



22. To the section "On the provinces or "On provincial assignment" add the sentence " The census should be used to identify citizens who are assigned to the "wrong" province and provide them with the option of changing province."



23. To the new section "On the laws of the Kingdom" or if amendment 14 did not pass to the section "On other issues" add the sentence " Reform of the orglaw should as much as possible take the form of separate amendments."



24. To the new section "On the laws of the Kingdom" or if amendment 14 did not pass to the section "On other issues" add the sentence "Whenever the OrgLaw is reformed in its entirety, a midterm referendum should be held to allow additional legislation during that term."



25. Repeal the section "On Judicial reform" in its entirety.



26. Create a new section directly after "On culture" or "On culture and enterprise" entitled "On awards and recognition". Additionally, move the clause "Promote the development and

expansion of a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation." from the section "On other issues" to the new section "On awards and recognition".



27. In the section "On awards and recognition" or "On other issues" amend the sentence "Promote the development and expansion of a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation." to read "The MRPT will continue and expand a nationwide dialogue on the creation a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation and will support the creation of such a system. "



28. From the section "On Other issues" remove the sentence "The Talossan government should start paying for its own web presence."



29. Create a new section "On Talossan webpresence" except when all of the amendments 31-36 fail.



30. If there are no clauses remaining in the section "On other issues" remove the section "On other issues"



31. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "The government should continue paying for Talossa.com and kingdomoftalossa.net. "



32. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "he ministry of STUFF should coordinate with the Talossan

Web Registrant to find cheaper hosting options for Talossa.com and Kingdomoftalossa.net. "



33. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "The government should aim to archive the remaining content of Kingdomoftalossa.net and close the site by 2020."



34. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "An MRPT minister of STUFF will continue making talossa.com both up to date and updateproof by removing unneccesary pages and transfering content to the wiki."



35. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "Finalising the nationalisation of the Talossan database should be a priority for the next government. "



36. To the new section "On Talossan webpresence" or alternatively the section "On other issues" add the following sentence: "The MRPT is committed to allow both privately run fora and create a government run forum in the form of telecomuna in the future, but might choose to accept a further delay if Talossa is not ready for two separate fora yet."



37. At the end of the manifesto add a new section entitled "Financial expectations (start 51st cosa term - start 52nd cosa term)" to which the following content shall be added:

"Election fees 52nd Cosa election: +50$

Sales (Coins/Stamps/Talossaware): +100$

Donations Kingdom: +75$

Donations Talossaid +25$

Talossaid -25$

Webhosting reimbursements 50th Cosa: -91.48$

Webhosting costs 51st Cosa -245.82$

Additional expenses -30$

Total -142.30$"

[Alèxandreu]

So, those are a lot of amendments, and I suppose for the ease of further work it would be useful to have a clear reference on how Gluc's amendments, in case wholly accepted, will affect the Manifesto. (in the hindsight, I should have colored moved clauses differently from the added ones, but I believe no human is ideal.) If you make your own amendments, please take the original Manifesto from the thread first post as your source!

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On micronations:

• No diplomatic relations with "bug-micronations". The government should not abuse its diplomatic powers.
• The Foreign Ministry should try to investigate what serious, "like minded" "micronations" are currently active and the potential risks and benefits associated with various forms of diplomatic contacts with such nations, within the limits of the Afaes Utphätseschti Act.
• The government should try to increase its visibility in the micronational world.
  

On the Senate:

• Party endorsement should not count in any way for Senatorial elections.
• Provinces should be in charge of electing Senators, whenever possible.
• Use of a preferential voting method for senatorial elections conducted by the Chancery.
• Introduce a small fee for accepting seats in the Senate. A small fee for accepting seats in the Senate might be introduced in the future, but only if neccesary because webhosting consistently costs more than revenue generated by donations and stamp/coin/talossaware sales.
• Votes in the Senate should be degressively proportional to the number of citizens of the province a senator represents.
  

On the Cosa:

• Introducing mandatory and binding candidate lists for the Cosâ.
  
• On the long term Talossa needs a Real Cosâ, which will be achieved by a combination of population growth and a decrease in the size of the Cosâ to sixty seats.
• The Seneschal should be elected by the Cosa using a preferential ballot rather than be appointed by the King. On the long term, the MRPT will consider the possibility of a PM directly elected by the voters.
• The fee for participating in Cosa elections may only be raised if absolutely neccesary for the purpose of webhosting and not before a fee for accepting seats in the Senate has been introduced.
  

On the secret ballot:

The MRPT is happy with the current amendment to introduce a semi-secret ballot, but would like to go one step further and introduce a full automated secret ballot for Cosâ and Senatorial elections, under the condition that a diverse independent committee has access to the admin account to monitor the elections.

On separation of power:

• The MRPT believes that on the long term further separation of power is needed.
• Too many offices should not be held by too few people. This can however only be achieved alongside a growth of the population.
• When Talossa has more than 1000 citizens full separation of power between the judiciary, excecutive and legislative should, at least on a national level, be realistic.

On citizenship and privacy:

• The MRPT does not support plans to make immigration laws stricter in the sense that more activity or knowledge from the prospective citizen is required than under the current rules.
  
• Any contact information received from the prospective by the Immigration Ministry Interior Ministry or the Chancery is strictly private and may not be shared with third parties outside the Ministry of Immigration  Interior Ministry or the Chancery, with the exception of email addresses, which may be shared with the committee to monitor secret ballot elections the Electoral Commission, and provincial institutions that have tasks similar to that of the Chancery. Provinces may use the chancery database to maintain their own email database for the purpose of holding elections. The list of email addresses should be regularly updated by the chancery.
• The MRPT believes that Talossan citizenship should not prevent Talossans from pursuing their own interests outside Talossa and will protect the right of Talossans to do so. This includes joining micronations.

On the provinces provincial assignment: (moved)

• Provincial assignment should remain based on actual geographical location.
  
• Moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should result in a change of province. The default option for moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should be a change of province.
  
• Increasing provincial activity.
• The census should be used to identify citizens who are assigned to the "wrong" province and provide them with the option of changing province.
  

On Laws of the Kingdom:

• When a project can be completed without any new legislation, it should generally be completed without any new legislation.
• Many provisions of the Organic Law would be better suited as part of Statutory Law.
• Reform of the orglaw should as much as possible take the form of separate amendments.
• Whenever the OrgLaw is reformed in its entirety, a midterm referendum should be held to allow additional legislation during that term.
  

On culture and enterprise:

• Promoting and protecting Talossan culture, language and traditions. The CUG remains the institution responsible for protecting the Talossan language.
  
• The government should not try to do what Talossans can do themselves, but instead stimulate private initiative.
• In most cases, the Government should facilitate and support cultural projects, rather than lead or own them.
• When a project can be completed without any new legislation, it should generally be completed without any new legislation.
• The Ziu should in most cases refrain from endorsing cultural practices as being "Talossan" when there is no evidence the practice is in fact strongly related to Talossan culture.

On awards and recognition:

• Promote the development and expansion of a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation. The MRPT will continue and expand a nationwide dialogue on the creation a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation and will support the creation of such a system.
  

On judicial reform:
The MRPT is committed to reforming the Royal Talossan Bar, in a way that allows competent and dedicated prospective barristers to be admitted to the Bar through a period of apprenticeship and an automated law exam. Unless the Royal Society can guarantee regular, scheduled law courses, attendance and graduation should not be compulsory to seek admission to the Bar. Measures will be sought to ensure that such a reform is reached with broad, nonpartisan consensus.

On the Monarchy and the Royal Household:

• The MRPT is fundamentally monarchist, and supports the hereditary Monarchy. However, we are also committed to taking measures to make the Monarchy more acceptable to the Republican segment of the population and make the Monarchy more accountable to all the people. These measures should include the introduction of a democratic option to remove a Monarch when there is a large public and parliamentary support for such a step. The veto power of the King over statutes should be converted to a suspensive veto which can be overridden by a supermajority of the Ziu during the same session as the veto was issued, or by a simple majority of the Ziu during the session following the veto subject to a vote of the people in a referendum.  However, we also believe in democratic values, which means the Kings political power should be limited. Additionally, there should be democratic way to remove the monarch if there is large public and parliamentary support for such a step.
  
• Officers currently part of the royal household should remain within the royal household.
  

On other issues:

• Many provisions of the Organic Law would be better suited as part of Statutory Law.
• Promote the development and expansion of a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation.
  
• The Talossan government should start paying for its own web presence.

On Talossan webpresence:

• The government should continue paying for Talossa.com and kingdomoftalossa.net.
• The ministry of STUFF should coordinate with the Talossan Web Registrant to find cheaper hosting options for Talossa.com and Kingdomoftalossa.net.
• The government should aim to archive the remaining content of Kingdomoftalossa.net and close the site by 2020.
• An MRPT minister of STUFF will continue making talossa.com both up to date and updateproof by removing unneccesary pages and transfering content to the wiki.
• Finalising the nationalisation of the Talossan database should be a priority for the next government.
• The MRPT is committed to allow both privately run fora and create a government run forum in the form of telecomuna in the future, but might choose to accept a further delay if Talossa is not ready for two separate fora yet.

Financial expectations (start 51st cosa term - start 52nd cosa term):

Election fees 52nd Cosa election: +50$
Sales (Coins/Stamps/Talossaware): +100$
Donations Kingdom: +75$
Donations Talossaid +25$

Talossaid -25$
Webhosting reimbursements 50th Cosa: -91.48$
Webhosting costs 51st Cosa -245.82$
Additional expenses -30$

Total -142.30$

[Glüc]

Someone should probably update the manifesto to reflect what passed to enable people to come up with amendments for the second round.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Here is the updated manifesto.  Please tell me if I made a mistake.



On micronations:
-No diplomatic relations with "bug-micronations".
-The Foreign Ministry should try to investigate what serious, "like minded" "micronations" are currently active and the potential risks and benefits associated with various forms of diplomatic contacts with such nations, within the limits of the Afaes Utphätseschti Act.
-The government should try to increase its visibility in the micronational world.

On the Senate:
-Provinces should be in charge of electing Senators, whenever possible.
-A small fee for accepting seats in the Senate might be introduced in the future, but only if necessary because webhosting consistently costs more than revenue generated by donations and stamp/coin/talossaware sales.
-Votes in the Senate should be degressively proportional to the number of citizens of the province a senator represents.

On the Cosa:
-On the long term Talossa needs a Real Cosâ, which will be achieved by a combination of population growth and a decrease in the size of the Cosâ to sixty seats.
-The Seneschal should be elected by the Cosa using a preferential ballot rather than be appointed by the King. On the long term, the MRPT will consider the possibility of a PM directly elected by the voters.
-The fee for participating in Cosa elections may only be raised if absolutely necessary for the purpose of webhosting and not before a fee for accepting seats in the Senate has been introduced.

On the secret ballot:
The MRPT is happy with the current amendment to introduce a semi-secret ballot, but would like to go one step further and introduce a full automated secret ballot for Cosâ and Senatorial elections, under the condition that a diverse independent committee has access to the admin account to monitor the elections.

On separation of power:
-The MRPT believes that on the long term further separation of power is needed.
-Too many offices should not be held by too few people. This can however only be achieved alongside a growth of the population.
-When Talossa has more than 1000 citizens full separation of power between the judiciary, executive and legislative should, at least on a national level, be realistic.

On citizenship and privacy:
-The MRPT does not support plans to make immigration laws stricter in the sense that more activity or knowledge from the prospective citizen is required than under the current rules.
-Any contact information received from the prospective by the Interior Ministry or the Chancery is strictly private and may not be shared with third parties outside the Interior Ministry or the Chancery, with the exception of email addresses, which may be shared with the Electoral Commission, and provincial institutions that have tasks similar to that of the Chancery. Provinces may use the chancery database to maintain their own email database for the purpose of holding elections. The list of email addresses should be regularly updated by the chancery.
-The MRPT believes that Talossan citizenship should not prevent Talossans from pursuing their own interests outside Talossa and will protect the right of Talossans to do so. This includes joining micronations.

On provincial assignment:
-Provincial assignment should remain based on actual geographical location.
-The default option for moving permanently across provincial assignment borders should be a change of province.
-Increasing provincial activity.
-The census should be used to identify citizens who are assigned to the "wrong" province and provide them with the option of changing province.

On Laws of the Kingdom:
-When a project can be completed without any new legislation, it should generally be completed without any new legislation.
-Many provisions of the Organic Law would be better suited as part of Statutory Law.
-Whenever the OrgLaw is reformed in its entirety, a midterm referendum should be held to allow additional legislation during that term.

On culture:
-Promoting and protecting Talossan culture, language and traditions. The CUG remains the institution responsible for protecting the Talossan language.
-The government should not try to do what Talossans can do themselves, but instead stimulate private initiative.
-In most cases, the Government should facilitate and support cultural projects, rather than lead or own them.
-The Ziu should in most cases refrain from endorsing cultural practices as being "Talossan" when there is no evidence the practice is in fact strongly related to Talossan culture.

On awards and recognition:
-The MRPT will continue and expand a nationwide dialogue on the creation a formal National Honours System for the purposes of providing a mechanism of recognition for civic contributions & service to our nation and will support the creation of such a system.

On judicial reform:
The MRPT is committed to reforming the Royal Talossan Bar, in a way that allows competent and dedicated prospective barristers to be admitted to the Bar through a period of apprenticeship and an automated law exam. Unless the Royal Society can guarantee regular, scheduled law courses, attendance and graduation should not be compulsory to seek admission to the Bar. Measures will be sought to ensure that such a reform is reached with broad, nonpartisan consensus.

On the Monarchy and the Royal Household:
-The MRPT is fundamentally monarchist, and supports the hereditary Monarchy. However, we also believe in democratic values, which means the Kings political power should be limited. Additionally, there should be democratic way to remove the monarch if there is large public and parliamentary support for such a step.
-Officers currently part of the royal household should remain within the royal household.

On Talossan webpresence:
-The government should continue paying for Talossa.com and kingdomoftalossa.net.
-The ministry of STUFF should coordinate with the Talossan Web Registrant to find cheaper hosting options for Talossa.com and Kingdomoftalossa.net.
-The government should aim to archive the remaining content of Kingdomoftalossa.net and close the site by 2020.
-An MRPT minister of STUFF will continue making talossa.com both up to date and updateproof by removing unneccesary pages and transfering content to the wiki.
-Finalising the nationalisation of the Talossan database should be a priority for the next government.
-The MRPT is committed to allow both privately run fora and create a government run forum in the form of telecomuna in the future, but might choose to accept a further delay if Talossa is not ready for two separate fora yet.

Financial expectations (start 51st cosa term - start 52nd cosa term):

Election fees 52nd Cosa election: +50$
Sales (Coins/Stamps/Talossaware): +100$
Donations Kingdom: +75$
Donations Talossaid +25$

Talossaid -25$
Webhosting reimbursements 50th Cosa: -91.48$
Webhosting costs 51st Cosa -245.82$
Additional expenses -30$

Total -142.30$

[Ian Plätschisch]

Does anyone have any more amendments?

[Glüc]

I was thinking about a proposal for the bar reform, but decided to leave it. I guess if no one has anything we could start voting on approving the manifesto instead.

[Ian Plätschisch]

Here are two:

1. Add to the Laws of the Kingdom "The MRPT supports the adoption of the Organic Law proposed by the Committee for Organic and Statutory Reform, but is willing to work with the proponents of other proposals if doing so would result in a new Organic Law which both rids the Organic Law of its many provisions which are better suited to statutory law, and either advances the ideals of the MRPT or retains most of the current features of Talossan Democracy and Monarchy."
2. Add to the Laws of the Kingdom "The MRPT does not believe that frequently amending the Organic Law is inherently bad, as doing so allows Talossa to experiment with and perfect government systems."